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this debt ceiling issue is just crazy. i stand -- >> was it crazy seven years ago when your democratic colleague voted against raising it? was it crazy then? >> well, except it wasn't real and this is real. the last final -- >> real is in the eye of the beholder. >> no, no. >> i guess it's -- >> it was more -- you know that those past votes were more symbolic, but when we really had a crisis over the debt ceiling in 2011, there were real consequences. real lasting consequences, and we didn't even -- we did raise the debt ceiling in the end, but we saw the deficit grow, neil, when there was this threat to -- and so as i said, the coke brothers, the u.s. chamber of commerce, against the debt crisis. >> i always appreciate your coming on. you give as well as you take and i appreciate that. congresswoman jan. >> a warning about the healthcare law. unite health care says its costs are running up. all rise. the judge says your premiums are about to do the exact same thing. so, i guess we shouldn't be surprised. premiums will lik
this debt ceiling issue is just crazy. i stand -- >> was it crazy seven years ago when your democratic colleague voted against raising it? was it crazy then? >> well, except it wasn't real and this is real. the last final -- >> real is in the eye of the beholder. >> no, no. >> i guess it's -- >> it was more -- you know that those past votes were more symbolic, but when we really had a crisis over the debt ceiling in 2011, there were real consequences. real...
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he has fights around the debt ceiling coming up and to make this the issue, how do you think that will work? >> that's why i wonder how serious he is. i'm not questioning his motives. now he knows for the next two months all we're going to be talking about is the debt ceiling, sequestration, the continuing resolution, ending the fiscal cliff, all of these. >> you're not questioning his motives of what he's suggesting. he'd rather have a conversation about guns than the debt ceiling? >> i think the president is trying to get political support from his base, maybe he feels it strengthens him going into negotiations with the republicans or the fiscal issues. listen these guys won't even ban assault weapons, how can you trust them on taxes and spending. i see it as building up his political position which is not wrong but i don't think in his heart of hearts he thinks he's going to pass any significant legislation. >> congressman king in the studio after my asking all the time. >> i couldn't stay away from you, soledad. >> she's not really a tough interviewer is she? >> she's very nice and
he has fights around the debt ceiling coming up and to make this the issue, how do you think that will work? >> that's why i wonder how serious he is. i'm not questioning his motives. now he knows for the next two months all we're going to be talking about is the debt ceiling, sequestration, the continuing resolution, ending the fiscal cliff, all of these. >> you're not questioning his motives of what he's suggesting. he'd rather have a conversation about guns than the debt ceiling?...
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the appropriate goal here whether the debate should occur, plus, if you use the debt ceiling as the issue, the president gets to talk about default, he gets to talk about social security, and from a republican standpoint, we should be talking about spending, spending restraint. so what's the logical place to do this? obviously, it's on the sequester. that's where the next pressure point should be, and we should have the debate over how much spending should be explained. the president said he'll do a two for one event, two dollars of spending for every dollar of revenue. $1.2 trillion of spending restraint, that makes sense. the two match up rather equally. .. >> the only way you can get agreements with both sides win by the way, if something like this. where there are a series of entitlement changes which do not impact immediately and leapfrog the president's term in office, so the price he will pay will not be significant any era of political capital, but which do very significant steps in getting our fiscal house in order. most of our entitlements concern that down the road driven event
the appropriate goal here whether the debate should occur, plus, if you use the debt ceiling as the issue, the president gets to talk about default, he gets to talk about social security, and from a republican standpoint, we should be talking about spending, spending restraint. so what's the logical place to do this? obviously, it's on the sequester. that's where the next pressure point should be, and we should have the debate over how much spending should be explained. the president said he'll...
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resolutions, the debt ceiling debate. he's in full campaign mode. do you think the president emboldened by reelection and maybe emboldened by a win on the fiscal cliff, do you think he's overreaching on the political consequences and how should republicans deal with it? >> look, i think he clearly felt after the election that he was out to crush the one institution that was stopping his agenda, that it stopped it in the second, in the third and the fourth years of his administration, first administration, namely the republican house. he set up the fiscal cliff negotiations deliberately to split the republicans in the house, knowing that if he did, it would neuter the opposition and he would have the kind of dominance of washington, which he had in the first two years before he lost the house in the mid term elections. so, i have no doubt that that's how he used the fiscal cliff. that's how he's going to use the issue of immigration and that's how he's going to approach the debt ceiling and other issues and it's his object
resolutions, the debt ceiling debate. he's in full campaign mode. do you think the president emboldened by reelection and maybe emboldened by a win on the fiscal cliff, do you think he's overreaching on the political consequences and how should republicans deal with it? >> look, i think he clearly felt after the election that he was out to crush the one institution that was stopping his agenda, that it stopped it in the second, in the third and the fourth years of his administration,...
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it will be about the gun agenda as well as immigration and climate change in the debt ceiling where the gun issue is concerned, we will see rallies and town halls and lots of big gun control type money on tv screens. on the other side of all of this the national rifle association is planning a big ad blitz on its own. first one on the web started in the last day or so. it busts the president for hypocrisy because is he skeptical about the idea of armed guards in schools while his kids go to a private school here in d.c. by the way the house and the hill both know that the president's proposed ban on semiautomatic rifles is din disingenuous that there are not enough votes in the senate. everybody knows it. >> bill: states should control that issue and the feds can put in a law you can't transport them across state lines. that's what they do. all right. rosen now, clarence thomas, supreme court justice, never speaks. he is like the spinks. he never speaks. there he is, not speaking. we have a picture of him not speaking which is not hard to get because he never speaks. but he did break hi
it will be about the gun agenda as well as immigration and climate change in the debt ceiling where the gun issue is concerned, we will see rallies and town halls and lots of big gun control type money on tv screens. on the other side of all of this the national rifle association is planning a big ad blitz on its own. first one on the web started in the last day or so. it busts the president for hypocrisy because is he skeptical about the idea of armed guards in schools while his kids go to a...
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without going into all of the different ramifications i want to say a word about the debt ceiling which is not everybody understands what it's about. the debt ceiling which congress has to do periodically as gives the government money to pay its existing bills. it doesn't create new spending so it's like a family trying to improve its credit rating not the most effective way to improve the credit rating and was the slow solution to the debt ceiling in august of 2011 that of the u.s. downgraded last time brough so it's very important that congress take the necessary action to raise the debt ceiling to avoid a situation where our government doesn't pay its bills. estimate the number of people have expressed concern about how much of the challenges actually were addressed in the deal. as you mentioned is certainly went part way that leaves a number of issues still on the table and additional negotiations are learning to read what you characterize that as a class that is facing us or do you think that it's not as concerning as it was when you raised that term initially? >> as i said the fis
without going into all of the different ramifications i want to say a word about the debt ceiling which is not everybody understands what it's about. the debt ceiling which congress has to do periodically as gives the government money to pay its existing bills. it doesn't create new spending so it's like a family trying to improve its credit rating not the most effective way to improve the credit rating and was the slow solution to the debt ceiling in august of 2011 that of the u.s. downgraded...
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uncertainty of the presidential election, uncertainty of the fiscal cliff and the sequester debt ceiling argument. we've gotten through two big bad events, only one more station on the gauntlet. it simply isn't as scary or as meaningful as the other two when it comes to the stock market or new business formation. sorry, it won't sell as many parents, it just won't. smart investors are making a bet they can't wait for the third of the three washington incursions to be finished. once a big bad event is passed, the risk of responding floods in. now we're about to finish the third leg of this political steeplechase, and we will be given a level of certainty we haven't had in ages. you want to wait for those people to come in? it could be investing nirvana, a guy in brooklyn, cramer, smart guy. you scared us with the election, you scared us with the fiscal cliff and now scaring us with the debt ceiling. what are you going to scare us with about washington after that's over and you faked everyone out and got them to sell? i rolled my eyes, i defended myself, saying that all three of threes iss
uncertainty of the presidential election, uncertainty of the fiscal cliff and the sequester debt ceiling argument. we've gotten through two big bad events, only one more station on the gauntlet. it simply isn't as scary or as meaningful as the other two when it comes to the stock market or new business formation. sorry, it won't sell as many parents, it just won't. smart investors are making a bet they can't wait for the third of the three washington incursions to be finished. once a big bad...
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ceiling and the full faith and credit of the u.s., overwhelmingly agree with him on issues liabilities taxes. 90% agree with him, for example, on universal background checks on the purchase of a weapon. it's very different from what happened with george bush when he won a very narrow victory in 2004, and then said he had a man date and decided he had a man date to privatize social security which was deeply unpopular. the great strength of the president here is he knows what he wants to do, he's very focused, and he has the country with him. some of this stuff is going to be tough to get through congress and you may have to fight it in the midterms and beyond, but he's going to make real progress, i think, because of what he believes and because he's got the country with him. >> well, these are kind of fundamental issues for a president, guns and keeping the government gorg and fighting for his foreign policy team. it's not like he's looked for a fight. let's face it, newtown forced everybody to deal with this. >> newtowns changed everything. >> i don't think he's looking for a fight. i
ceiling and the full faith and credit of the u.s., overwhelmingly agree with him on issues liabilities taxes. 90% agree with him, for example, on universal background checks on the purchase of a weapon. it's very different from what happened with george bush when he won a very narrow victory in 2004, and then said he had a man date and decided he had a man date to privatize social security which was deeply unpopular. the great strength of the president here is he knows what he wants to do, he's...
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because we're back to this tax issue with regard to the debt ceiling potentially and revenues and we continually here about things in the past and i'll tell you this. talk to any family that's paying whatever rate they were paying in 2012 and that's the rate that makes their family work. whatever that tax rate works. it can cover their expense, buy books, scene their kids to school, put food on the table. it doesn't matter where the tax was a generation ago or three years ago because we assimilate, we're a productive capitalist society that assimilates. it on lie matters where you are. love steve liesman's presentation. it's about government spending. what i find fascinating, what we have here is on one side debt. on the other side we have stimulus but not really. okay. boy the board is even getting excited. but debt and stimulus are the same. it just depends on which side of the check you're on. the 1.2 trillion every year in debt is basically a stimulus. so why is it so shock or why is it that to stop increasing debt that once you do the numbers go down? you know what it's like? yo
because we're back to this tax issue with regard to the debt ceiling potentially and revenues and we continually here about things in the past and i'll tell you this. talk to any family that's paying whatever rate they were paying in 2012 and that's the rate that makes their family work. whatever that tax rate works. it can cover their expense, buy books, scene their kids to school, put food on the table. it doesn't matter where the tax was a generation ago or three years ago because we...
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the debt ceiling, of course sometime next month there are also dealing with government funding running out in march and some other issues like the sequestered. republicans are floating a short-term debt ceiling increase with some modest cuts to deal with the automatic spending cuts that government funding levels and get back to an argument or discussion over the debt ceiling and spending levels once you reach the next few months. that is right now what they are discussing. they have not decided on that strategy. this is just the house republican strategy. it would then have to keep an over to the senate and agree with senate democrats and the white house. for republicans they say this is all about structural spending changes. >> i think it is very clear at this is not just the notion of paying back past dues for the united states but also making sure that the dead obama administration wants to continue to incur is restrained. >> reporter: republican leaders continue to meet with members discussing a number of different ways to deal with the debt ceiling, short-term mr. -- short term. a
the debt ceiling, of course sometime next month there are also dealing with government funding running out in march and some other issues like the sequestered. republicans are floating a short-term debt ceiling increase with some modest cuts to deal with the automatic spending cuts that government funding levels and get back to an argument or discussion over the debt ceiling and spending levels once you reach the next few months. that is right now what they are discussing. they have not decided...
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you have the sequestered, the debt ceiling, and you have the continuing resolution. the sequestered and debt ceiling fall on top of each other towards the end of february. these to say and republican leadership and the senate, which is served in for 12 years, you never take a hostage you cannot shoot. the problem with the house was they took hostage the cannot shoot when they took the fiscal cliff. if the republican members of congress take the debt ceiling as a hostage, it is a hostage you cannot shoot. as a very practical matter, if we go over the debt ceiling, we do not increase the debt ceiling, republicans will not win the debate. they will argue they are not increasing it because they do not want to control spending but they will not win the debate. what will happen is the white house will pay with cash flow of the interest on the debt. the debt will not be called. what they might not pay our social security checks. the moment the american citizen figures out they may not go out, the game is over. tenfold. because believe me, though congress can stand up to the
you have the sequestered, the debt ceiling, and you have the continuing resolution. the sequestered and debt ceiling fall on top of each other towards the end of february. these to say and republican leadership and the senate, which is served in for 12 years, you never take a hostage you cannot shoot. the problem with the house was they took hostage the cannot shoot when they took the fiscal cliff. if the republican members of congress take the debt ceiling as a hostage, it is a hostage you...
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ceiling conversations, days after fiscal quick negotiations -- days after fiscal cliff negotiations. was that deal good for poor people? >> for 30 years, we have not addressed this issue, except for the wonderful work that you and cornel are doing in these wonderful people on the panel. politics has neglected the poor. one could say that there was a war on the poor rather than a war on poverty for much of this period. the united states has by far the most poverty of any of the high- income countries as a share of the population. we have the highest in quality. we have the most entrenched underclass. we have had the biggest increases of any quality by far, and we've had the least political response of any high- income countries, so we are standing out on our own. this has been a 30-year trend of soaring in comes at the top, stagnation in the middle, and falling through the floor on the bottom, and the political system has refused to address this for 30 years. so we have reached a calamitous situation in this country, but the fact of the matter is nothing that was done at the fiscal cl
ceiling conversations, days after fiscal quick negotiations -- days after fiscal cliff negotiations. was that deal good for poor people? >> for 30 years, we have not addressed this issue, except for the wonderful work that you and cornel are doing in these wonderful people on the panel. politics has neglected the poor. one could say that there was a war on the poor rather than a war on poverty for much of this period. the united states has by far the most poverty of any of the high-...
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you know, the democrats are starting to say if you go over the debt ceiling, you hit it, calamitous. and you have other words from damaging to manageable, republicans saying we can do this for awhile and it will be okay. i want to look at specific issues here. democrats say any missed government payment is a default. republicans say, no, only when you don't pay the interest on the debt. how about on the issue of can the government prioritize payments so that the incoming cash equals the outgoing cash? really the republicans -- i'm sorry, democrats saying no authority to do this and really no ability to program our computer system to do that. republicans saying you know what? the government can pay just the interest, social security and defense spending meaning military salaries. markets, of course, democrats say they're going to demand higher wage because of this. republicans will suggesting they'll overlook this gridlock. finally on the economy, a lot of folks saying it would cause a depression. republicans say, there are temporary effects here. now, okay, so let's do this. could yo
you know, the democrats are starting to say if you go over the debt ceiling, you hit it, calamitous. and you have other words from damaging to manageable, republicans saying we can do this for awhile and it will be okay. i want to look at specific issues here. democrats say any missed government payment is a default. republicans say, no, only when you don't pay the interest on the debt. how about on the issue of can the government prioritize payments so that the incoming cash equals the...